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M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signals

Postby ross_badger » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:01 pm

I've assembled a mini racer quad with an M4v2 & N4 and I am having problems with the motors arming and even outputting a PWM signal. I've read through the forum and others have seem to have this same problem, and I've done everything that I know.
1) I'm using the latest M4 firmware with Quatos for external ESCs
2) I'm using KISS 18A ESCs and have individually calibrated them with the Rx, they seem to work fine
3) FRSKY DR4-II Rx in PPM mode and Taranis Plus Tx
4) I have performed a TARE and Mag calibration
5) I have tried several different values for the ESCs / Motors (see file)

The M4 LEDs are behaving normally and I am able to arm it using the Tx with a solid green light. However, the motors don't arm and when I measure the motor PWM output signals, there is no output (0 uS pulse).

Any ideas? I'm pulling my hair out!

Thanks, Ross

# Onboard parameters for system MAV 113

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby Mullet » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:54 am

Looks to me like you forgot to set up the motor mixing for motors 5-8 and not 1-4.

What size quad are you doing? I'm about to do an SOS-X Blackbird 180mm with a similar setup... 12A Kiss ESCs, DYS 1306 motors, etc. I'm planning on doing a build log with pictures and all. Just need to order a few more parts - pico camera, aomway transmitter, 808 #16 v3 camera, and a micro minum osd.

Maybe when I get my build log thread going you can help out with the whole getting Quatos to work with KISS ESCs process... I plan on putting out a method to do it once done.
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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby ross_badger » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:03 am

Dang....I hope that is the issue! I am building a Blackout Mini H 220 and most of the way done...just trying to get the motors going :-)

I'll let you know what I find....thanks for the tip!

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby Max » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:14 am

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby ross_badger » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:41 am

Max....thanks for the info. I changed over to the PID controller firmware and now at least I have 1 motor armed and running. Now I need to determine how to get the other 3 going.....at least I'm closer.

Any other direction to get the other 3 motors started and running?

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby aBUGSworstnightmare » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:06 am

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

Postby ross_badger » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:48 am

Thanks BUG, I'll try the "all-in-one" calibration with the HK connector that just came in the mail last week: https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/sto ... duct=76534

I think that my ESC settings should work for my KISS setup (I copied that from your setup):

MOT_ARM 1055
MOT_MIN 1080
MOT_START 1095
MOT_MAX 1950

Thanks! Ross
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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

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Re: M4v2 + N4 + KISS ESCs not arming or outputting PWM signa

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