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Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:45 pm
by DUKE40
Hi,

to smoothen the onboard videos, I am planning to install a 2-axis gimbal only to compensate the angle on nick and roll when moving or flying with wind.
I think I will need a separate board for steering the gimbal. or does AutoQuad have already a functionality for compensating the angle of the copter on the gimbal.
I do not plan to steer the gimbal from the TX at this stage.

Would appreciate any hint or advise.

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:53 pm
by SuperSharpShooter
Get yourself an from viacopter - you just set the AQ board to send the gimbal tilt command, but the gimbal controller is otherwise a standalone unit.


What camera are you planning to use with it? There are a lot of gimbals out there, but a lot of them are badly designed/made.

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:34 am
by kinderkram
The AQ was designed as a flying camera rig, remember? ;)

It already has a lot of features for camera stabilization and operation:
- 2axis servo control. Best results with fast digital servos @6V.
- Passthrough for tilt control
- Camera Trigger
- All sorts of log options & exports
- You can adjust inputs, outputs and finetune the settings in the GUI

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Good enough for aerial photography and FPV. Menno demonstrated it nearly 2 years ago:



It´s all documented - RTFW! :lol:

But it´s all been forgotten due to the Alexmos Brushless Gimbal Mania...

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:16 am
by Max
The stabilization from AQ itself is very impressive. Here's a quick first test video from almost 2 years ago with a home-made servo-driven gimbal, controlled by AQ (it's not pretty but shows the compensation pretty well, especially check at around 0:20). The only real limitation is that it may not compensate as well as a dedicated IMU mounted on the camera (like the Alexmos/et al. systems use). If the gimbal moves around independent of the frame (eg. on rubber mounts), the AQ couldn't detect that.

-Max


Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:23 am
by DUKE40
Thanks Max and than Norbert for this information.
I went through the Documentation but somehow oversaw the concerning chapters, my mistake.
I have found the informaiton now and will go on with my plans.
Concerning the Gimbal I will have to build it myself, as the camera will not be below the quad, but inline with it.
The camera is a GoPro Hero 3.

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:16 pm
by Lindbaergh

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:02 pm
by DUKE40
Now my gimbal is built and installed. I hope to make the first testflight this long week-end.
It is a really poor and cheap creation of myself, but the dry test showed that i works and stabilization working as expected.
Will let you know how it worked out in flight.

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:07 am
by DUKE40
I am using Align DS520 digital servos for my gimbal.
I left the output PWM frequency for the Gimbal at 200Hz, but my servos make some strange noises.
I was wondering if this might be due to the frequency?
I have seen in the user manual of several Flybarless systems that they recommend 333Hz as frequency for those servos, should I use if in AutoQuad as well? Or could this damage my servos and I'd better stick with 200Hz?

Would be great if anyone could help me answer this question.

Re: Question about Gimbal and AutoQuad

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:24 am
by kinderkram
Digital servos usually can operate in the 200-400Hz range so you´re on the safe side with the 333Hz of the Aligns.
http://www.spartan-rc.com/resources/servodb/servo.php