not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

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not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

Postby teramax » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:32 pm

lets see if this has a future........

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Re: not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

Postby JussiH » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:59 pm

Hey, I thought it looked pretty good! The "police" frame is such an odd creature..

How did you mount the FC - Since we dont have provisions for offset FC I am curious to see how AQ performs with the FC mounted off-center. But it seemed to do OK.

Is AQ driving the cam stabilisation or are you using Zaitsevskis method with gyros?
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Re: not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

Postby teramax » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:46 pm

JussiH wrote:Hey, I thought it looked pretty good! The "police" frame is such an odd creature..

Indeed but Alexey´s Gimbal works awsome so i hardly whanted to give it a try.
But i am far away from good and stable.

JussiH wrote:How did you mount the FC - Since we dont have provisions for offset FC I am curious to see how AQ performs with the FC mounted off-center. But it seemed to do OK.


The offcenter position i tried to tune out with much PID juggling and also by mixingtable (not successfully).
Will post pictures next. I had to DIY a new framepart for the FC, original was to small.

JussiH wrote:Is AQ driving the cam stabilisation or are you using Zaitsevskis method with gyros?


The cam sabilisation prinziple is a mix of both. The AQ gives impulse for the correct angle and due the fact that the servos are connected with springs u need the gyros to smooth out the bounzing effekt of the springs.
Works awsome!!

Next step: figure out how to tell the AQ that it is off center. Ahm.... Bill do you read :?

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Re: not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

Postby LPR » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:13 am

Tera

I mounted the AQ board 8 inches to the rear of center on my octo and in manual flight it was not bad. In altitude hold the altitude control was bad. The altitude would jump 1 to 2 meters when you would stop the copter from a fast forward flight in alt hold mode. Altitude control must be a function of z accelerometer, GPS and barometer .

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Re: not successfully but a first flight "AutoQuacilop"

Postby teramax » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:32 am

Last news:
I´ll be stopping this experiment here cause i cant get closer to center with the FC and with PID tuning i am stuck at OK but not good attitude.
There´s no way to get closer to better handling than if i would use a WKM.
Meanwhile!

Maybe some Code-Pro´s come up with a solution to tell the board it´s off-center position.
Until then the frame is waiting patiently in the corner of my workshop.

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